Legislature(2005 - 2006)BELTZ 211

01/20/2005 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS


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03:32:17 PM Start
03:34:12 PM SB36
04:47:00 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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* SB 36 ABSENTEE BALLOT APPLICATIONS
Heard & Held
              SB  36-ABSENTEE BALLOT APPLICATIONS                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GENE THERRIAULT  announced that  the committee  would hear                                                               
his bill,  SB 36.  He had  the bill drafted  and introduced  as a                                                               
result of  the absentee ballot  request issue that came  to light                                                               
during  the  most  recent general  election.  The  entities  that                                                               
encouraged people  to use the  absentee ballot  process increased                                                               
appreciably  and  a number  of  the  groups developed  their  own                                                               
request forms. Some  of the request forms had  a return addresses                                                               
for an  entity other than that  of the Division of  Elections. He                                                               
felt that  was inappropriate because  of the sensitive  data that                                                               
the forms contain.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:34:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
He  asked  the legislative  legal  drafter  to develop  suggested                                                               
wording on  how to place  something in  statute to make  it clear                                                               
that such  intermediary handling  of absentee ballot  requests is                                                               
not  acceptable  in  the  future. There  is  also  language  that                                                               
specifically  notices political  parties  that  they may  neither                                                               
encourage nor assist in such activity in the future.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  asked Ms.  Laura Glaiser  from the  Division of                                                               
Elections to  give some  background on the  issues raised  in the                                                               
previous general  election. He also  asked her to  advise members                                                               
of any other problems they  might want to consider before passing                                                               
SB 36  and that  he did not  intend to take  final action  on the                                                               
bill that day.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
He  noted the  Governor's  bill,  SB 66,  was  introduced and  it                                                               
addresses this  and other election  related issues.  A difference                                                               
is that  SB 66 contains a  consequence section and he  would like                                                               
to discuss incorporating something similar into his bill.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
AS 15.56.060 states that unlawful  interference in an election is                                                               
a  crime  and  this  bill  would  add  intermediary  handling  of                                                               
absentee ballot requests to the list of unlawful activity.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
He asked Ms. Glaiser to come forward.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:36:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA GLAISER,  Director of the Division  of Elections introduced                                                               
herself and asked how she should proceed.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  asked her to  give some history. He  noted that                                                               
there  had been  a  marked  increase in  the  number of  absentee                                                               
ballot requests nationwide and asked  her to discuss the specific                                                               
circumstances.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  reported that  the Alaska  Republican Party  was the                                                               
first to print  absentee ballot requests that  they generated and                                                               
this  was  for the  primary  election.  When the  party  chairman                                                               
contacted her and  asked about format and  other particulars, she                                                               
advised them to use the state form.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
She then showed  members absentee ballot request  forms that were                                                               
developed  and   used  by  the  Republican   Party,  the  Knowles                                                               
campaign,  and  the Democratic  Party.  She  understood that  the                                                               
Republican Party  sent out about  90,000 absentee  ballot request                                                               
forms statewide for the primary.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The Republican Party form was similar  to the state form in print                                                               
and  font, but  portions  of  the form  were  pre-filled for  the                                                               
voter. The  voters name, residence address,  mailing address, and                                                               
often the gender  were pre-printed on the form. It  was also pre-                                                               
marked  so  the voter  would  receive  absentee ballots  for  all                                                               
elections.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:38:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER said the voter was  required to say where they wanted                                                               
the ballot  mailed, to sign  the form, and  to fold and  seal the                                                               
form that was pre-addressed to the Division of Elections.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:38:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The Knowles campaign  was the next to approach  the division with                                                               
a  proposed form.  She  noted  that the  Knowles  form is  easily                                                               
identified and  that it clearly  stated that  it was paid  for by                                                               
Tony Knowles  for U. S.  Senate. That  form was directed  back to                                                               
the Division of Elections. It didn't go to an intermediary.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Concerns that were expressed [to  the Knowles Campaign] regarding                                                               
the form  weren't changed. For  example, the Alaska  voter number                                                               
was not  included on  the form  and the  division likes  it there                                                               
because identity  theft is  less likely from  a voter  ID number.                                                               
The Knowles  form had  no preprinting; the  voter filled  out all                                                               
information.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Because no one is required to  check with the division and anyone                                                               
may track  those who request  an absentee ballot, she  isn't sure                                                               
which  entities'  form  came  next.   She  understands  that  the                                                               
Republican  Party  tracked  and  sent  another  mailing  for  the                                                               
general election.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:40:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER explained  that she made copies of each  form for the                                                               
October  12 press  conference  that she  and  Lt. Governor  Leman                                                               
called when "this all kind of blew up in our face."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:41:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The Alaska  Democratic Party (ADP) form  was next and it  came in                                                               
two sections.  It was  a three-fold mailer  with two  copies. The                                                               
first flag  for the division was  that there was no  place on the                                                               
application for  a residence address although  state law requires                                                               
that. The division  had to make follow-up contact  with the voter                                                               
to get  an address. A second  problem was that the  form was open                                                               
faced  so that  the  signature  and private  voter  data was  not                                                               
protected. Finally, the form was  returned to the ADP rather than                                                               
the Division of Elections.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER said  that the  division first  became aware  of the                                                               
problem when  several employees expressed  concern that  they had                                                               
received the  form at a  PO Box  and that the  required residence                                                               
address  was missing.  The other  concern was  that the  form was                                                               
returned to a party rather than the Division of Elections.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The  Division of  Elections, region  II,  Anchorage office  began                                                               
receiving forms in pre-addressed  postage paid envelopes that the                                                               
division  provides  to  registrars.  The  Anchorage  office  date                                                               
stamped  the  envelopes   then  sent  them  to   Juneau  by  DHL.                                                               
Thereafter, the forms began arriving by the box.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
She  pointed out  that they  had  no ability  to anticipate  this                                                               
volume. As the  Anchorage office applied date  stamps, they began                                                               
to notice  that as much  as a month  might have passed  since the                                                               
voter signed the  form. She couldn't speak to where  the form had                                                               
been, but it's likely that the  form didn't get to her office and                                                               
entered into  their database as  quickly as the voter  might have                                                               
thought.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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Two or three days after  the October press conference, her office                                                               
sent  letters  to  over  900 voters  saying  that  they  couldn't                                                               
process the  application until they received  a residence address                                                               
to  enter  into the  database.  As  a  second  option, a  by  fax                                                               
application was included on the back of the letter.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:45:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT asked  about the  issue of  stickers that  were                                                               
placed on some of the applications.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  explained that that was  one of the reasons  for the                                                               
October press  conference. When they  first noticed there  was no                                                               
residence address she  sent an email to the  parties stating that                                                               
some  voters  asked  about  ADP and  questioned  which  form  was                                                               
official. After she sent the  email, the division began receiving                                                               
Democratic Party  applications with residence address  added on a                                                               
preprinted label.  Although this information was  added after the                                                               
voter  signed the  form, the  division  took the  stand that  the                                                               
voter shouldn't be faulted and they processed the applications.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:46:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT asked what the  Department of Law said about the                                                               
form having been altered after the voter signed it.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER replied  they said  it  was wrong,  but because  the                                                               
division and the  Department of Law agreed that  they didn't want                                                               
to disenfranchise voters, they kept  the applications moving. She                                                               
reported that there were 58,000  applications and there were days                                                               
when  they  received between  7,000  and  11,000 applications.  A                                                               
number of  these applications weren't  complete which  meant that                                                               
it  took elections  staff time  to  help the  voter complete  the                                                               
form.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
She  added that  under current  law,  the last  day voters  could                                                               
request an  application is  seven days prior  to an  election and                                                               
she would like the committee to  extend that time to at least ten                                                               
days prior to an election.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS  WAGONER noted that a  newspaper recently reported                                                               
that  29,000   absentee  forms  weren't  accounted   for  and  he                                                               
questioned whether this wasn't at least partially responsible.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER replied  the non-standard forms did  cause delays but                                                               
they weren't responsible for all  the difficulties. For instance,                                                               
the special  advance ballot requests increased  by 1,300 percent.                                                               
Voters  that request  special  advance  ballots actually  receive                                                               
two. The first  ballot is mailed 60 days before  the election and                                                               
the second  is sent when  all other absentee ballots  are mailed.                                                               
Although she  explained the procedure  to the reporter,  the news                                                               
release  didn't make  it clear  that when  she mailed  out 58,000                                                               
ballots,  some  voters  got two  ballots.  Without  querying  the                                                               
database it's hard to explain and defend ourselves, she said.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:49:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  emphasized that her  staff did a terrific  job under                                                               
difficult circumstances.  The election  coordinator slept  in her                                                               
office.  "I've   never  seen  efforts   like  our  staff   did  -                                                               
temporaries,  range  8s." That  being  said,  it's correct,  they                                                               
didn't  get  everyone's  application   out.  They  processed  the                                                               
applications  that  were  complete   and  tried  to  get  missing                                                               
information whenever possible.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT acknowledged  that the number of  votes cast was                                                               
a record.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:50:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  added that the  absentee votes  were up by  about 87                                                               
percent from the election in 2000.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  remarked that  it's a good  thing that  so many                                                               
people participated  in the  process, but  he didn't  believe the                                                               
volume and the  intermediate steps caused by  non state generated                                                               
applications could have been anticipated.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER replied  that, as  a  manager, it  was difficult  to                                                               
plan. It's acceptable  that the forms aren't  state generated but                                                               
she would like  them to be approved by the  director of elections                                                               
so  they could  better  prepare.  At that  time,  they would  ask                                                               
whether the  forms would be partially  pre-filled. The Republican                                                               
Party  did  that,  which  made  the data  entry  easier  for  the                                                               
division. She  showed another sample  that used shiny  card stock                                                               
and a  small font, which  slowed data entry. The  state generated                                                               
forms were  developed years ago  and they were developed  to make                                                               
data entry as easy as possible.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:52:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  asked about  the issue  of whether  the mail-in                                                               
was a voter registration or an absentee ballot request.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER replied that Alaska state  law says that when a voter                                                               
requests  an application,  they are  updating voter  registration                                                               
information at the  same time. She pointed  out that instructions                                                               
on some forms made that clear, but others didn't.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:53:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  commented that some voters  expressed confusion                                                               
regarding the fact that one form performed both functions.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER agreed that they did receive some of those calls.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:54:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CHARLIE HUGGINS  asked what sort of concerns  she and her                                                               
staff had when they first became aware of the different forms.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER  replied  that  her   first  concern  was  that  the                                                               
applications weren't returned directly.  An entity other than the                                                               
Division of  Elections had  individuals' private  information and                                                               
it might or  might not have been protected.  The Democratic Party                                                               
form  stated  that  driver's   license  number,  social  security                                                               
number,  phone  and email  had  to  be  provided, but  state  law                                                               
requires neither a phone number  nor email address. She clarified                                                               
that the  Knowles Campaign  forms and  the Republican  forms were                                                               
sent directly to the division.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
She  made  the point  that  Senator  Guess  worked very  hard  on                                                               
legislation  to protect  voter confidentiality  and it  "went out                                                               
the door  with this because  it went to  a party first."  The Lt.                                                               
Governor  wrote a  letter to  the chair  of the  Democratic Party                                                               
asking particulars  about their  possession of the  forms because                                                               
he  had  similar  concerns.  When   the  information  doesn't  go                                                               
directly to the  state, you fear that voter  caging is occurring.                                                               
This  is the  political  term for  gathering  and tracking  voter                                                               
information. She  clarified that she  doesn't know that  this was                                                               
going on, but that's what you  fear when applications first go to                                                               
an entity other than the state.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked whether she had seen this happen before.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER replied  she was the new division  director, but this                                                               
was the  first time the division  had seen this happen.  It's not                                                               
uncommon for candidates or parties  to ask for voter registration                                                               
forms  and absentee  ballot  forms  to take  to  fairs and  other                                                               
forums,  but  there  is  no  record  of  applications  that  were                                                               
returned to an entity other than the Division of Elections.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS stated that he  assumed that her concern was that                                                               
voters could become disenfranchised.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER told  him  that her  staff thinks  in  terms of  how                                                               
quickly   they   are  able   to   deliver   a  ballot   and   the                                                               
confidentiality  of the  record.  They were  very concerned  that                                                               
personal  information  and  signatures   went  through  the  mail                                                               
without any  privacy protection. The division  designed a privacy                                                               
flap to protect  signatures before her tenure so this  has been a                                                               
concern for some time, she said.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:58:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked if many  voters expressed concern that they                                                               
couldn't vote due to the process.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  replied they  tried to answer  questions in  a press                                                               
release and a  press conference, but she didn't  want to generate                                                               
fear. Some people  did call the division and ask  whether the ADP                                                               
was an elections  office. At the beginning they  didn't know what                                                               
precipitated the question.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS said  he  assumes she  agrees  that changes  are                                                               
needed so there isn't a recurrence.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER said  yes and both Senator Therriault's  bill and the                                                               
Governor's  bill  address  the  issues  of  pre-approval  by  the                                                               
division,  and   mailing  directly  to  the   division.  Regional                                                               
supervisors have advised  her that there are  entities other than                                                               
parties that  gather voter registrations  and keep copies  of the                                                               
forms.  When registrars  are trained  they are  told not  to keep                                                               
these records,  but state  law doesn't prohibit  it so  the state                                                               
has to decide whether it wants to protect those records.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:01:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT remarked that he  saw the forms when they became                                                               
an issue,  but he didn't catch  the point about the  phone number                                                               
and email address until she mentioned it just then.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER added that information  isn't captured from the state                                                               
generated  form  unless an  individual  has  indicated that  they                                                               
would like  to be an  election worker. They keep  the information                                                               
on  their  form  in  anticipation  of  an  update  to  the  voter                                                               
registration system.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  posited that the  only reason  that information                                                               
was requested is that the intermediary wanted that information.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER  replied,  "You  could  say  that,  but  I  couldn't                                                               
possibly."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIM  ELTON expressed  appreciation  to  the Division  of                                                               
Elections for  moving very  quickly when  he asked  questions for                                                               
some of  his constituents who  wanted to vote absentee.  He asked                                                               
if  it's fair  to say  that  nothing illegal  happened, but  that                                                               
there  were miscommunications  and  some  mechanical issues  that                                                               
complicated her job and that might confuse some Alaskans.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  said she can't  speak to what  the ADP did,  but the                                                               
suggested legislation would make it  clear that only the Division                                                               
of  Elections could  receive voter  registration and  application                                                               
forms. What was  done hadn't been done before and  without a bill                                                               
it isn't clear enough.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON said  this is one approach and  the Governor's bill                                                               
adds to this bill, but there  are other approaches. "Can't we say                                                               
that the absentee ballot request  must be the official state form                                                               
or  one step  less than  that and  say that  the director  has to                                                               
approve any  absentee ballot request  form?" Other ways  might be                                                               
less  intrusive  to   party  functions  and  would   get  to  the                                                               
mechanical issues that were problematic.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:05:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER said it's a policy  call for the Legislature, but she                                                               
urged  members  to protect  voter  confidentiality  and when  the                                                               
forms go  to an entity other  than the state, then  privacy can't                                                               
be ensured.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON said  that one  way to  address that  would be  to                                                               
inform people  that the information  would be collected by  X and                                                               
sent to the Division of Elections.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER restated that it's a policy call.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:06:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON  asked how  the  term  political group  was  being                                                               
defined  in  the  legislation.  Is   it  the  Juneau  Chamber  of                                                               
Commerce, Trustees of Alaska, Retired Public Employees?                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT said he would  check, but he wasn't sure whether                                                               
that  section  of the  bill  is  in  statute.  There might  be  a                                                               
definition section at  the end or you could make  reference to an                                                               
area giving  a definition, he said.  If this is the  language the                                                               
committee agrees to, a definition reference could be added.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON stated  that he  realized the  bill wasn't  moving                                                               
that day,  but a definition  was in  order before the  bill moves                                                               
from committee.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR THOMAS WAGONER stated that  it would make sense to define                                                               
a  political group  as  any  group that  is  registered with  the                                                               
Alaska Public Offices Commission (APOC).                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT asked Ms. Glaiser to respond.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:08:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER stated that SB  66 addresses that in 15.20.081(a). It                                                               
states that  applications must be submitted  directly to Division                                                               
of Elections thereby negating the  need to define political group                                                               
or political  party. Current state  law says, "A  qualified voter                                                               
may apply by mail or  electronic transmission to the director for                                                               
an absentee ballot."  It doesn't say directly to  the director so                                                               
it's unclear. In  years past, people thought it  came directly to                                                               
the division and it now needs to be more clearly defined.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT asked  about the  advice the  division received                                                               
from the attorney general's office  regarding the augmentation of                                                               
information  and   pasting  over   information  with   labels  by                                                               
person(s)  other than  the voter.  He  asked whether  this was  a                                                               
violation of regulation.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:09:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER advised  that she was reading from  the opinion dated                                                               
October 14, 2004 that says  that "Alaska Statutes don't expressly                                                               
authorize  a   third  party  to   submit  an  absentee   by  mail                                                               
application on behalf  of a voter. To do so  would create serious                                                               
public policy  concerns." With  regard to a  third party  and the                                                               
postcard format  of the applications,  the opinion was  that "the                                                               
applications  more  vulnerable  to  alterations  and  leaves  the                                                               
voters  confidential information  in view,  potentially revealing                                                               
private information  to third  parties." With  regard to  a third                                                               
party  adding or  changing information  on the  form as  was done                                                               
with  the   stickers,  the  opinion   advised  that,   "Under  AS                                                               
15.20.081(b), an  absentee by mail  application also serves  as a                                                               
voter registration  application. The voter  registration statutes                                                               
require  that registration  applications contain  an attestation,                                                               
by the  voter, that the  information is true and  a certification                                                               
of the  applicant understands he or  she can be prosecuted  for a                                                               
false statement."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
AS 15.07.060  contemplates that  "a voter  who registers  by mail                                                               
will provide  the information required  directly to  the division                                                               
of elections or  a voter registration agency unless  the voter is                                                               
incapacitated."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:11:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  remarked  that  it's clear  that  the  statute                                                               
didn't anticipate that  the data might be changed  after a person                                                               
filled out and  signed the form attesting to the  accuracy of the                                                               
data. However,  it can certainly  be read that it  isn't allowed.                                                               
It points out that an intermediary stop is ripe for problems.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:11:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  asked what the  variance was in the  most recent                                                               
election that precipitated a recount.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER said the state pays  for a recount if the variance is                                                               
less  that .5  percent and  although the  variance was  more than                                                               
that, another party requested the recount.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  remarked that there  seems to be an  increase in                                                               
the  number  of  people  who question  voter  intent,  which  has                                                               
resulted in  increased recounts.  He asked how  much it  cost the                                                               
person requesting the recount.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  told him that  it's $10,000 for a  statewide recount                                                               
and $750 for a district recount.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked who requested the recount.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER  said it  was  Concerned  Citizens for  Alaska.  Joe                                                               
Sonneman headed  the group  and there was  also a  professor from                                                               
Fairbanks who was involved.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS asked whether it cost the state anything.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER replied they've spent about $39,000 to date.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON stated  that addressing how much to  charge back is                                                               
going to be  a difficult question. However,  the individuals that                                                               
requested  the  recount said  that  they  were confident  in  the                                                               
Alaska  system after  having gone  through  the process.  Sending                                                               
such a  positive signal  back to  voters may  be worth  more than                                                               
$39,000.00.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
He asked  whether anyone  has looked  at how  other jurisdictions                                                               
handle  absentee   ballot  requests  and  what   solutions  other                                                               
jurisdictions might have developed.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  said she recently  attended a meeting  in Washington                                                               
D.C. and learned  that many states were overwhelmed  by the voter                                                               
registration  process  than  by   the  absentee  ballot  process.                                                               
Concerns regarding fraud and voter  caging were common. Comparing                                                               
the Alaska system with that  of other states is difficult because                                                               
the systems aren't similar.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON stated  that in  the last  election the  number of                                                               
absentee ballot  requests and the  number of people who  voted an                                                               
absentee ballot  was astounding.  In addition, voter  turnout was                                                               
larger  than any  previous election.  The concerns  expressed are                                                               
valid,  but  it's  important  to find  a  solution  that  doesn't                                                               
diminish the  ability to  get absentee  ballot requests  sent out                                                               
without placing an additional threshold  in front of a voter that                                                               
would  make it  more difficult  to participate.  Many people  did                                                               
vote  in  the last  election  and  he  attributes that  to  party                                                               
building  and  activating  voters. Everyone  is  concerned  about                                                               
voter confidentiality, but a solution  to the problems that arose                                                               
shouldn't reduce absentee voting in future.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:18:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER agreed  and said Alaska voters are  fortunate to have                                                               
the  number of  avenues  available to  them.  Lt. Governor  Leman                                                               
worked  with  Senator Lincoln  on  special  advanced ballots  for                                                               
rural Alaskans.  Alaskans in the military  and stationed overseas                                                               
also  applied for  the special  advance  ballots. Alaskans  voted                                                               
early,  and by  fax, and  special needs  voters had  ballots hand                                                               
delivered. The  Help America Vote  Act was  also a great  help to                                                               
uniformed personnel stationed overseas.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:20:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  remarked that  it's  likely  that many  states                                                               
would look  to Alaska for  how to  develop a system  to encourage                                                               
participation, but the problems that arose need to be addressed.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.   GLAISER  added   that  voters   should  be   protected  and                                                               
participation should be encouraged.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:20:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGGINS  reported that  his son  had a  little difficulty                                                               
with his absentee  ballot, but was very pleased with  the help he                                                               
received from the Division of Elections.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER agreed that her staff worked hard.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT referenced  an  earlier  question from  Senator                                                               
Elton and  stated that AS 15.60.010  (22) and (23) has  a general                                                               
description of  a political  party or  group that  applies unless                                                               
it's otherwise specified in the chapter.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  noted that  Annette  Kreitzer  was online.  He                                                               
asked her to describe her  discussions with the Alaska Democratic                                                               
Party (ADP)  regarding the form  they sent  out and the  issue of                                                               
the  applications that  were returned  to  the ADP  P.O. Box.  In                                                               
addition he asked her to explain what it means to cage voters.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
ANNETTE  KREITZER, Chief  of Staff  to Lieutenant  Governor Loren                                                               
Leman said  Ms. Glaiser had  done a  good job in  describing what                                                               
happened.  She  wasn't  sure  where   the  phrase  caging  voters                                                               
originated, but  she interprets it  the same as Ms.  Glaiser. She                                                               
added  that the  Lt.  Governor has  spent  considerable time  and                                                               
effort on legislation designed to protect voter privacy rights.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:24:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
When the Lt.  Governor first became aware of  what was happening,                                                               
he sent  the head  of the  ADP a  letter on  October 8  citing AS                                                               
15.20.081.  After  speaking  with   the  Department  of  Law,  he                                                               
determined that the activity was  not consistent with the text or                                                               
the spirit of that provision of law.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
In his letter he outlined his  concerns and directed that all the                                                               
applications be  delivered to the Division  of Elections promptly                                                               
for  processing. They  were  very concerned  about  the time  gap                                                               
between the time  the ADP received the applications  and the time                                                               
they were delivered  to the division for processing.  He was also                                                               
concerned about the privacy of  the application and the fact that                                                               
card  stock was  used  and  the information  could  be viewed  by                                                               
anybody.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
The  Lt. Governor  asked the  ADP whether  anyone other  than the                                                               
voter  applied  stickers with  voter  addresses  and or  precinct                                                               
numbers. Scott  Sterling, chair of  the ADP, responded  that when                                                               
applications were returned and did  not have residence addresses,                                                               
that  information  was  added   without  otherwise  altering  any                                                               
portion  of the  application.  This troubled  the Lt.  Governor's                                                               
office and the  Division of Elections because  the voter attested                                                               
that everything  on the form  was true yet information  was added                                                               
after the  fact. Lt.  Governor Leman was  also concerned  that no                                                               
voter be  disenfranchised so they didn't  return the applications                                                               
to the  voters. Rather  they asked the  Division of  Elections to                                                               
contact  the voters  to get  the  information so  they could  get                                                               
their ballot in time.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT asked  if it  was correct  that once  they made                                                               
contact  they  developed  a  process  whereby  a  state  employee                                                               
accompanied the  ADP individual to  the post office every  day to                                                               
collect the ballots immediately.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. KREITZER said that's what happened.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  asked for  a timeline from  when the  ADP forms                                                               
were first mailed to when  the division began using the immediate                                                               
transfer system.  He also  questioned how  many requests  came in                                                               
and what the data was used for.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  KREITZER stated  that the  Lt.  Governor asked  a series  of                                                               
questions including how much time  had elapsed between picking up                                                               
the cards and  delivering them to the Division  of Elections. Mr.                                                               
Sterling's letter  of 10/13/04  said that  about one  week passed                                                               
before the  first absentee  ballot requests  were turned  in, but                                                               
she wasn't  sure of the number.  After that, he stated  that they                                                               
were turned in as they were  received. In the same letter he said                                                               
they applied stickers when there  was no residence address so the                                                               
forms were in their possession for at least that long.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:30:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT asked  if  anyone asked  whether  the data  was                                                               
photocopied  or  whether  the  information  was  entered  into  a                                                               
database.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. KREITZER said  they didn't get answers on that  point and the                                                               
Lt. Governor  decided not to press  the issue since it  was clear                                                               
that legislation was necessary.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:30:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  asked whether  she would provide  the committee                                                               
members  with copies  of the  correspondence that  went back  and                                                               
forth.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. KREITZER said she'd do so by the next day.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  asked Ms. Glaiser  whether she had  anything to                                                               
add.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.   GLAISER  said   the  division   was  concerned   about  the                                                               
supplemental information  because there is no  assurance that the                                                               
residence information that the ADP added was correct.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:32:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON posited  that the  voter addresses  were from  the                                                               
Division of  Elections database.  He agreed  that the  concern is                                                               
valid,  but  wondered  whether any  voter  complained  about  the                                                               
stickers  that were  added. He  said he  appreciates the  way the                                                               
division handled  facilitating voters in voting  and assumes that                                                               
whoever  applied the  sticker thought  they were  facilitating as                                                               
well.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER  replied the  voters  didn't  know because  the  Lt.                                                               
Governor and  the division  elected not  to have  a controversial                                                               
political  exchange.  When the  division  sent  letters out  they                                                               
didn't assess blame. The driving force  was to get ballots to the                                                               
voters.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:34:09 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT stated that the  issue was handled appropriately                                                               
at the  time, but he believes  that if voters were  contacted now                                                               
and told that their application  was changed after they certified                                                               
that  the  information  was correct,  some  would  definitely  be                                                               
upset.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER remarked that voters  certainly would have been upset                                                               
if the  division had taken  punitive action and  hadn't processed                                                               
the applications.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:35:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGGINS remarked  that the  issue is  disturbing and  it                                                               
can't happen again because it's unfair to voters.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:36:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT  questioned whether it appeared  that there were                                                               
batches of applications  that looked as though  they were delayed                                                               
longer than others.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER replied the Lt.  Governor asked the same question and                                                               
she decided  that tracking the  information would take  time away                                                               
from  processing  applications.  She   elected  to  shoulder  the                                                               
responsibility   and   have   her  staff   work   on   processing                                                               
applications.  She did  have an  employee pull  all stickered  or                                                               
altered  applications  so  that managers  could  make  decisions.                                                               
Whenever they could  call voters and get  the correct information                                                               
they did  so. It's perfectly  all right  for someone to  fill out                                                               
most of  the application  and have  a voter to  apply his  or her                                                               
signature  and  is  no  different   than  a  party  generating  a                                                               
preprinted application.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
The Lt.  Governor supported her decision  to process applications                                                               
as  quickly as  possible  rather  than to  spend  time and  labor                                                               
tallying irregularities to bolster their position in the end.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT   asked  whether   she  had  all   the  altered                                                               
applications in her possession.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER said she did.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT asked  her to  elaborate  on the  issue of  the                                                               
prepaid registrar envelopes.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:38:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER explained  that the  Division of  Elections provides                                                               
postage  paid  envelopes  to the  regional  election  offices  to                                                               
expedite  the return  of registration  forms.  The ADP  generated                                                               
form was  returned to the  party first;  the party then  used the                                                               
prepaid envelopes  and returned the applications  to the regional                                                               
office  in Anchorage.  That slowed  processing  down because  the                                                               
regional office  date stamped the  envelopes and sent them  on to                                                               
the director's  office via  DHL. She  has no  way of  knowing how                                                               
long it  took for  the applications to  transit from  the initial                                                               
mailing point  to the ADP postal  box, but it took  between three                                                               
and  five days  for  the applications  to move  from  ADP to  the                                                               
Juneau office if there were no glitches.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Although they  didn't complain, it  was very frustrating  for her                                                               
and  her  staff  because  they   take  the  voting  process  very                                                               
seriously and this was completely outside their control.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT outlined issues to consider:                                                                                   
   · Whether there should be a penalty.                                                                                         
   · Confidentiality - If entities are allowed to send out                                                                      
     applications, should voter information be concealed?                                                                       
   · Voter registration cutoff date is now seven days and the                                                                   
     director asked for consideration for 10 days.                                                                              
   · Whether forms should have pre-approval - This could include                                                                
     return to only the Division of Elections. It could also                                                                    
     include type size, shape, shaded areas, type of paper                                                                      
     stock.                                                                                                                     
   · Possible separation of voter registration from the absentee                                                                
     ballot.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  said that for  protection the form should  be folded                                                               
and  mailed back  to the  Division  of Elections.  That could  be                                                               
placed  in  regulation.  With  regard  to  separating  the  voter                                                               
registration  and the  absentee ballot,  she advised  that Alaska                                                               
law  says that  an absentee  ballot application  acts as  a voter                                                               
registration  form. She  didn't know  whether there  were federal                                                               
guidelines as well.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  pointed  out  that  if  someone  went  to  the                                                               
Division of Elections  to register to vote, they  wouldn't get an                                                               
absentee ballot in the mail. However,  a number of voters did get                                                               
surprise absentee ballots in the  mail, which caused them to call                                                               
the division and question what was going on.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER said  some forms  were  better than  others and  she                                                               
would like the  division to pre-approve forms so  that data entry                                                               
isn't compromised. A great deal  of work goes into developing the                                                               
forms and  it's for  naught if parties  and other  entities don't                                                               
build on that effort. Communication  with the division would make                                                               
for a better process.                                                                                                           
4:44:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  THERRIAULT  asked  whether  there  were  other  issues  to                                                               
address to make the process better.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked  whether he could infer that  the Division of                                                               
Elections could  adopt the guidelines  for what the  request form                                                               
would look  like in regulation without  statutory authority. That                                                               
would  include  confidentiality  and   the  kind  of  information                                                               
requested.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER replied  the  kind of  information  requested is  in                                                               
regulation.  Current  law  says  that the  residence  address  is                                                               
required, but that wasn't on the ADP form.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  ELTON  reversed his  question  and  asked what  kind  of                                                               
information can't be requested.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER said she isn't an  attorney, but she views statute as                                                               
supreme and  then comes  regulation. With that  in mind,  she has                                                               
tried  to have  everything  in statute  and  not have  regulation                                                               
completely  separate. Currently,  statute says,  "by mail  to the                                                               
director of the Division of Elections."  She continued to say:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     If  the policy  makers say  go do  it in  regulation, I                                                                    
     guess the  Executive Branch has something  to say about                                                                    
     that too  about whether in  fact it should be  a change                                                                    
     to  statute first  - enhanced  with  regulation -  more                                                                    
     specifics  made in  regulation -  If you  want to  talk                                                                    
     about  glares, font  and everything,  but I  think pre-                                                                    
     approved by  the Division  of Elections  - we  saw that                                                                    
     until this  year everything was going  fine. When other                                                                    
     entities chose  to do drives, when  other entities took                                                                    
     a state form to the  fair, everything was working fine.                                                                    
     This was  the first  year where the  flags went  up and                                                                    
     something needs to be done differently.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:46:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR THERRIAULT stated that he  intended to hear the bill again,                                                               
hopefully  for final  action,  in two  weeks. He  held  SB 36  in                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      

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